Please stop making “RETRO GAMING IS DEAD” videos, you cunts. Thanks.


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Frisky Dingo
1 year ago

Retro gaming is very much alive and well however I reckon the community that surrounds it is grim and fractured beyond repair. You have the big sell out YouTubers who glom onto every trend going and wear snapbacks and affect American accents, and see themselves as above everyone. Then there’s the likes of Nostalgia Nerd who clearly never had any interest in retro but made a revenue stream from at least pretending that it’s their passion. Then you have the amateur “content creator” types who promote each others videos and jerk each other off, while decreeing that everyone else is enjoying their hobby wrong. Then there’s the old men who are equally miserable if you mention any computers other than the one they simp for. And then we have the drama hounds, the ones who make mediocre content but generate sympathy by getting caught cheating and being kicked out by their spouses, or having gender identity crisis, or falling foul of copyright, or accidentally murdering their pets.

Bert
1 year ago

Another week, another youtuber on the Retro Hour sigh…. They’re now interrupting the interviews half-way to shove another advert. So that’s a 3rd party advert at the start, a plug for bitmap books, a midway advert and a 3rd party one at the end. No more, I’ll finish this weeks and that’s it.

Bert
1 year ago
Reply to  Bert

So it’s not that retro gaming is dying, it’s that retro gaming youtubers are money grubbing twits who have run out of ideas.

Bert
1 year ago
Reply to  George

I bailed at the right time. First step was leaving the discord, some guy was ticking me off because I said I hate Mac computers, I used them 2007-2018 but got fed up with Apple. He was trying to pick faults in my arguments. This on a supposed “friendly community”.

T. Rollin
1 year ago
Reply to  Bert

To be fair, telling a Mac person that Apple products conceived during the Second Coming of Jobs is like going to a Muslim’s house and telling them that Muhammad was a nonce.

Bert
1 year ago
Reply to  T. Rollin

I put forward perfectly valid arguments. Lack of expandability on their laptops but calling them “pro” products, my first Macbook Pro had RAM slots and could have the disk replaced. Apple thinking 16GB is a sensible amount of RAM on some models. That alone caused many Photoshop users to bail as it’s unusable without at least 32GB if you’re working on magazine resolution images.

Also, who in Hollywood uses Final Cut these days? probably nobody, despite it once being very popular. Apple has dumbed down their “pro” products to be prosumer. They only have the Logic DAW left, I’m sure they’ll mess that up eventually.

Bert
1 year ago

It’s so dead that on the 30th I’m having all my friends over for an 8 and 16-bit games night. I did some years ago but it’s a right faff setting up about 4-5 games consoles and computers, just finding all the controllers and power bricks takes a while.

B3tan_Tyronne
1 year ago

Although I have actual retro hardware, I am seriously thinking of selling the lot as 100% of my retro gaming is now emulation.
I no longer have the time nor the space to have various gaming setups and like you said – playing the emulated game is no different from playing it on original hard wear except in the odd few games that emulators have issues running, but they soon get resolved.
I have said it for a few years now, but I am going to be getting rid of all my original systems and they might as well go to someone who might use them as they are getting bugger all use from me.
As for retro gaming dying – complete and total piss as although the old guard from the 8bit days will eventually die off, then there will be those who grew up in the 16 bit days and then the 32 bit days etc etc, its not dying it is simply evolving.

The Furthest Man From Home
The Furthest Man From Home
1 year ago
Reply to  B3tan_Tyronne

Whilst i’m no longer a gamer myself, my wonderful partner hates gaming and my rest days are spent with her and my step daughter…

My PlayStation 4 is set up in the spare bedroom as a media device, my DC, PSP and GBA etc collection sat in storage, awaiting sale to a friend of mine…

There’s absolutely no sign of Retro Gaming being poorly, let alone dead 🙄

It’s YT creators who’ve run out of content to cover, so push out absurd click bait videos.

Nobody was ever bullied for being a gamer, that’s just absolute nonsense.

We bunked off school to game at a mates, go down the arcades.

There are entire new generations out there who’s first platforms were things like the PlayStation, Saturn, N64..

Who look on at disbelief at those of us who grew up on platforms like the ZX81, Atari 2600,as they are so primitive in comparison.

As you say, YT revenues are drying up for many, as they’ve all covered the same content, badly..

People are switching off from grifters.

Bert
1 year ago

There’s shed loads of things to cover. But they just don’t always make for engaging content and if you don’t get loads of views then you don’t get the ad money or the patreons. So instead of doing interesting stuff like for example 8-bit show and tell does, they go for a tabloid sensationalist stuff.

There’s a whole goldmine of dodgy budget C64 games you could cover and have a laugh with but that doesn’t get the US audience viewing it.

Steven seagull stole my testicle
Reply to  George

I wonder….well when these YouTubers time is up…will they make a video about? And will we get a retrospective 😉

Bert
1 year ago
Reply to  B3tan_Tyronne

It’s not practical for many people. I have an entire drawer full of wires, PSUs and controllers for old systems and it’s all tangled up as you’d expect.

Bert
1 year ago
Reply to  George

Some of it just was sort of for bragging rights. Showing off your collection. In the case of someone like Metal Jesus it was “look at my latest pickups” and standing in front of $20,000+ of games then e-begging to fix your leaky wall.

Betacord
1 year ago

Hi George, eventually found you on Google after the YouTube situation! Was watching for a few months before it all vanished.

This is close to my heart. For people who actually want to play retro games we are living in a golden age with software emulation, FPGA, flash carts, drive emulators, mini consoles, modern re-releases. Never been more ways to play, it’s ace.

Plus the arcade games still getting emulated. Fans translating old games into different languages, that has gone crazy over the last few years. People doing hacks to fix and improve old games. Or all new versions of games, homebrew on old systems. Hard to keep up with so much going on.

If you still want to play on real hardware there’s a whole scene of people making repair and upgrade parts. It’s getting to the stage where some systems can be built from the ground up with new parts. Amazing stuff and very much not from a dying scene but a very active one that exists outside of these YouTube pox people who can’t be bothered to come up with original content so they just talk about the state of “the scene” all day, bottom feeders like RGT85 and the people who ape him in the hope of snatching some views.

I would prefer if you could get old games cheap, but I’m sick of being lectured about how bad the situation is by YouTubers sat in front of a hoard of stuff they never even play, just a background for them to cut between while they read the Wikipedia page for the Amiga CD32 and talk over stolen footage. Wish the companies would start running off new batches of old games and watch their faces drop as their £600 Mega CD Snatcher suddenly turns into a £40 one.

T. Rollin
1 year ago

I had to search “is retrogaming dead” on YT in an incognito window (because I don’t need that shit clogging up my algorithm). Two of the top results are videos by some bint with big jugs in a tank top pulling a retarded face in the thumbnail. One of these videos was published in the last 24 hours, the other was published 4 years ago…

Enough said.

RUSH
1 year ago

Spot on as per, George. It’s a hobby like any other and won’t die out so long as people are alive to enjoy them.

Also, if I can just say, as a bit of feedback – I much prefer these straight shot videos without the heavy editing and sound effects observed in the last few videos. Personally, I’ve found them a little distracting from what you’re saying, and I’m not sure they add much in the way of presentation. I obviously can’t speak for others, but I tend to listen to your videos instead of watching, so the additional sound effects often seem quite unnecessary. Maybe it’s just the frequency of them, or perhaps the volume? I’m unsure. But it would be remiss of me to give a bit of feedback when I can. Cheers mate!

RUSH
1 year ago
Reply to  RUSH

To add to my previous comment, the reach you have had and with just a jpeg background and a desktop microphone is evidence enough that you don’t need all this expensive gear to make a YouTube channel. You have a personality that, while perhaps divisive, is yours and yours alone (and another reason I feel the sound effects and additional editing is unnecessary!) I think when these shit channels are professing “Retro gaming is dead!”, I think they mean the creation of milquetoast, garden variety, dull, common as muck top 10’s and “did you know…” videos and such like are coming to an end. If so, GOOD. None of these tossers have a shred of personality or originality between them. All they’ve done is artificially raise the price of this stuff and make it unattainable for those who genuinely are interested in discovering these old games.

RUSH
1 year ago
Reply to  George

Cheers for the quick response mate. Happy to hear the edits won’t be a regular addition to your videos. Like you said, all the quick edits, or in the case of camera appearances – jump cuts, are all just manipulative ways to both hide how boring the presenter is that they have to try and artificially give energy to their videos because they can’t speak a full sentence without having to chop up every word, OR it just undermines the intelligence and attention span of their audience. Either way, it’s for the birds. As far as retro gaming itself is concerned, I can definitely see where you’re coming from. In your situation, emulation is simply far more convenient (as it is in 99% of cases). I’m one of those who would rather play on original hardware when possible, and am fortunate enough to have amassed a collection before these grifting BASTARDS tried to make it a profitable hobby, but have absolutely nothing against emulation. It’s a supremely effective way to get into these old games, and in many cases the ONLY way. More power to you. If you’re having fun, who gives a fuck?

T. Rollin
1 year ago
Reply to  George

The rambling style is what makes your videos so much fun, George. Fuck the haters.

Bigsky
1 year ago

Well said George, and I imagine this reflects the sentiments of many who actually enjoy gaming on most levels. I did laugh re your reference around thumbnails of YouTube pricks holding their chins with some arbitrary question inserted (usually in capitals) – this is a shameless tactic that can be seen on about 90% of retro gaming channels. What has always surprised me with YouTubers (along with how similar and boring they are) is how little these fuckers actually play games on their channels, which is surely what it’s all about? Along with your humorous and insightful commentary, I actually like the fact you play the games which is the part I enjoy most on your site. When you also do your discussions (like the ones with Simon), it’s also clear that you aren’t really a raving lunatic all of the time(😉), and that you actually know your onions about gaming and have some interesting views on this. I also like Mamemeister’s channel for this reason – there’s no razzmatazz there – just a normal bloke with standard equipment, who appears to genuinely like and plays the games he features – whether he’s good at them or not. No top tens, no failed systems features, no regurgitated features and no repeated requests to like and subscribe. Retro gaming of course isn’t dead, but fingers crossed as you say – hopefully it’s shit content from banal grifting fuckwits that is instead now on its way down the u-bend, rather than you hobby itself

Bert
1 year ago

Like anything, there comes a point where it gets harder to find some old retro game story that’s not been told. When talking with a friend of mine about youtube he said he didn’t watch Slops and preferred Mr “hello you”. But he told me recently he’s been watching Slops, almost like he’s run out of stuff to watch on youtube.